Legal Part 2: They made me say the earth is flat

*Please first listen to “Legal Part 1: A Subpoena is not a party invitation” before this episode.

For most physicians, talk of court, lawyers, or subpoenas brings on a rush of anxiety. The medical and legal worlds can overlap in many ways. In this five part series, we’ll cover everything from the basics, to being a percipient or expert witness, to the dreaded malpractice lawsuits. Joining us as Guest Host, is Dr. John Rose, Professor of Emergency Medicine at UC Davis.

In the second episode of our series, we talk about being a percipient witness. It’s not uncommon for EM physicians to be subpoenaed to testify as a percipient witness, so let’s delve into what that means and what you should do if you find yourself in this role.

What kinds of experiences have you had with the legal system? Please share! Tag us on social media, @empulsepodcast, or reach out via email, or connect through our website, Encourage your friends and colleagues to listen and share their perspective, too!

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Dr. Julia Magaña, Associate Professor of Pediatric Emergency Medicine at UC Davis

Dr. Sarah Medeiros, Associate Professor of Emergency Medicine at UC Davis

Guest Host:

Dr. John Rose, Professor of Emergency Medicine and EMS Fellowship Director at UC Davis


Chris Ore, Deputy District Attorney for Sacramento County and Supervisor of the Child Sexual Assault Unit 


When is a Treating Physician Considered an Expert Witness?  (Expert Institute)

Medical Testimony: Code of Medical Ethics Opinion 9.7.1 (AMA)

The Treating Physician as a Witness (NPR Law)


Thank you to the UC Davis Department of Emergency Medicine for supporting this podcast and to Orlando Magaña at OM Productions for audio production services.

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